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Potential energy and relativity
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brian a m stuckless
2007-05-08 00:25:11 UTC
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#5 HOW alpha emission decreases "lifetime"
$$ |Alpha RADiATiON + Gibbs free energy| = 0 = |2*eV + eG|.
Gibbs FREE triple-point POTENTiAL energy eG
The Gibbs FREE energy POTENTiAL eG remains CONSTANT in a
REVERSABLE, iSOTHERMAL,iSOBARiC process. Gibbs function,
eG = eM + eV ..has the SAME VALUE for ANY two PHASEs of
a substance which are in EQUiLiBRiUM (..in fact, for ALL
See, REST-potential eM + KiNETiC-potential eV = Gibbs eG.
Gibbs POTENTiAL energy eG is FREE at equilibrium TRiPLE-POiNT;
[But Stuckless eB & Helmholtz eF are ENTROPY canonical conjugates].
eB & eF conjugate at 'FiXED' degreeT and 'CAN be', at Entropy [S].
LaGrangian L = iNTRiNSiC eM - Helmholtz eF = eM - eF
= Stuckless eB - REST eM = eB - eM
= Entropy [S]*degT = [S]*degT
= Enthalpy E - Gibbs eG = E - eG
= Kinetic eK - Maxwell eV = eK - eV
= (m1*v1^2/2)*{(m1/M) + 1} = h*fL
= (h*fL + nA*hbar*fA) / Ni = L.
Analytical-UNiT-defined mass h/(wl*c)=m1 isN'T GR-allowed.
NUMBER is mass and h*fL/(nL*c^2) VARiEs with FREQUENCY fL.
So GR changed it's definition REST-mass to "mass-is-mass".
$$ [YET there isN'T even ANY EQUATABLE mass, in GR, to DATE].
[(Hamiltonian ENTHALPY E - KiNETiC eK)/c^2 = 1*m_o -> Kg].
[THE GiORGi SI (STANDARD iNTERNaZiONAL) MKSA UNiT SYSTEM].
Changing GR-mass definition defied H&L UNiFiCATiON intent.
FiNE variable, alpha a = 4*pi*ao*Roo = (mp - u)/u = (n - 1).
$$ Hamiltonian ENTHALPY E = LaGrangian L + (REST eM + LaGrange eP)
= LaGrangian L + (Gibbs FREE energy eG)
= [ [S]*degT + ( eP_H + eP_L )]
= [ h*fL + ( mo*c^2 + nA*hbar*fA )].
Ra Na*h L h*fL 2*Na*Mq eK
ENTROPY [S] = -- = -------- = ---- = ---- = ------- = -------
Ni Ni*{e}*c degT degT Ni*c Ni*degT.
|2*eV + eG| = 0 = |(<- Alpha RADiATiON ->) + (Gibbs free energy)|
= |3*eV + eM| = 0 = |( 2*eV ) + ( eM + eV )|.
< Magnetic Flux quantum Mq > >>< alt.sci.nanotech > #5 RePOST.
"iNSTANTANEOUS -- GR spatial coordinate-changes".
Potential energy is a classical concept not applicable to
relativity because the potential function depends on spatial
coordinates - change the position of the source of the
potential and instantaneously the potential function changes
implying the force changes instantaneously.
$$ Ass backwards before the cart.
$$ ___^__\______/
$$ _____/\/\____O__O_______
$$ Cart before the horse.

$$ Wavelength wl STOPs changing when GR observer STOPs slowing down.
$$ [Wavelength change iNSTANTANEOUS as observer STOPs slowing down].
So, if you can "change -- position -- iNSTANTANEOUSLY" ..WHY not
let GR ALLOW some "potential function" to iNSTANTANEOUSLY, ALSO.
Obviously ..if you can "iNSTANTANEOUSLY -- change the position",
then you are also "implying the force changes, iNSTANTANEOUSLY".
[ORDiNARY 'changes of position" imply ORDiNARY "force changes"].
Your PROBLEM is "iNSTANTANEOUS" GR-"spatial coordinate-changes".
<> >><> Re: Potential energy and relativity >><> #5 RePOST.
brian a m stuckless
2007-05-09 11:32:57 UTC
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#8 HOW alpha-emission causes 'half-life' ageing.
|Alpha RADiATiON + Gibbs free energy| = 0 = |2*eV + eG|.
Gibbs FREE triple-point POTENTiAL energy eG
The Gibbs FREE energy POTENTiAL eG remains CONSTANT in a
REVERSABLE, iSOTHERMAL,iSOBARiC process. Gibbs function,
eG = eM + eV ..has the SAME VALUE for ANY two PHASEs of
a substance which are in EQUiLiBRiUM (..in fact, for ALL
See, REST-potential eM + KiNETiC-potential eV = Gibbs eG.
$$ BULLET "stores" kinetic-POTENTiAL til 'bullet-hits-the-bone'.!!

$$ Stuckless eB & Helmholtz eF are ENTROPY canonical conjugates.!!
$$ CONjUGATE at degT, eB & eF 'CAN-be SO', at FiXED Entropy [S].!!
LaGrangian L = iNTRiNSiC eM - Helmholtz eF = eM - eF
= Stuckless eB - REST eM = eB - eM
= Entropy [S]*degT = [S]*degT
= Enthalpy E - Gibbs eG = E - eG
= Kinetic eK - Maxwell eV = eK - eV
= (m1*v1^2/2)*{(m1/M) + 1} = h*fL
= (h*fL + nA*hbar*fA) / Ni = L.
Note this includes all isothermal elastic-POTENTiAL-delay.
Analytical-UNiT-defined mass h/(wl*c)=m1 isN'T GR-allowed.
NUMBER is mass and h*fL/(nL*c^2) VARiEs with FREQUENCY fL.
[(Hamiltonian ENTHALPY E - KiNETiC eK)/c^2 = 1*m_o -> Kg].
[THE GiORGi SI (STANDARD iNTERNaZiONAL) MKSA UNiT SYSTEM].
Hamiltonian ENTHALPY E = LaGrangian L + (REST eM + LaGrange eP)
= LaGrangian L + (Gibbs FREE energy eG)
= [ [S]*degT + ( eP_H + eP_L )]
= [ h*fL + ( mo*c^2 + nA*hbar*fA )].
Ra Na*h L h*fL 2*Na*Mq eK
ENTROPY [S] = -- = -------- = ---- = ---- = ------- = -------
Ni Ni*{e}*c degT degT Ni*c Ni*degT.
| G*M*m1 | | m1*(vescape)^2 |
|(----------) + 2*eV| = 0 = |(REST eM) + 2*eV - (--------------)|
| (n - 1)*rA | | 4*(n - 1) |
= |2*eV + eG| = 0 = |(2*k*{e}*fL*fA*wl/2*pi) + (Na*k*degT*(log @))|
= |2*eV + eG| = 0 = |(<- Alpha RADiATiON ->) + (Gibbs free energy)|
= |3*eV + eM| = 0 = |( 2*eV ) + ( eM + eV )|.
< Magnetic Flux quantum Mq > >>< alt.sci.nanotech > #8 RePOST.
"iNSTANTANEOUS -- GR spatial coordinate-changes".
Potential energy is a classical concept not applicable to
relativity because the potential function depends on spatial
coordinates - change the position of the source of the
potential and instantaneously the potential function changes
implying the force changes instantaneously.
Ass backwards before the cart.
___^__\______/
_____/\/\____O__O______
Cart before the horse.
Wavelength wl STOPs changing when GR observer STOPs slowing down.
GR observers simultaneously observe a train speeding along track.
One of 'em instaneously fires a signal at the fixed back antenna.
The BACK transciever instaneously fires a signal to a laser ..on
the FRONT of the train and laser instaneously fires TRACK-mark B.
[Where TRACK-mark A is some Pre-EXiSTiNG TRACK-mark, before 'B'].
Of course, ALL GR observers measure a DiFFERENT distance, A to B.
But, that's so ..ANYway.. for Pre-GR 'Least-Squares-Adjustments'.
[GR "predicts" every WRONG-NUMBER 'Least-Squares-MEASUREMENT'].!!
And the GTR "explains" exactly WHY each gets his WRONG NUMBER].!!
[Finally, no GR-'Least-Squares-Adjustment'; EVERYbody's RiGHT].!!
Twould make a piss-poor CULT aspect if ALL but one was "RiGHT".!!
So, if you can "change -- position -- iNSTANTANEOUSLY" ..WHY not
let GR ALLOW some "potential function" to iNSTANTANEOUSLY, ALSO.
Obviously ..if you can "iNSTANTANEOUSLY -- change the position",
then you are also "implying the force changes, iNSTANTANEOUSLY".
[ORDiNARY 'changes of position" imply ORDiNARY "force changes"].
Your PROBLEM is "iNSTANTANEOUS" GR-"spatial coordinate-changes".
FiNE STRUCTURE variable, a = 4*pi*ao*Roo = (mp - u)/u = (n - 1).
[Where the icon ao is the BOHR radius of the Hydrogen atom H_y].
[Where the icon Roo is the Rydberg constant (Roo equals 1/loo)].
So then, GR changed it's definition REST-mass to "mass-is-mass".
[But ..YET, there isN'T even ANY EQUATABLE mass in GR, to DATE].
Changing the GR-mass definition defied H & L UNiFiCATiON intent.
GR-iNTRiNSiC "mass" is THAT mass it AND it's photon doesN'T HAVE.
$$ >><> Re: Potential energy and relativity autopsy >><> #8 RePOST.
brian a m stuckless
2007-05-14 01:47:56 UTC
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$$ Potential energy and relativity autopsy.
If you could read (which I am doubting [*]), you had noticed
that I wrote Lagrangians as a function of A and phi (f in ASCII
console) so early like a post from mine of day 15. Today is 12
of next month!!!
In that early post (that you cannot read because your well-know
disability), I introduced an online reference where you can
learn more details.
I also wrote U (relativistic potential energy in the Lagrangian
[**]) as a function of four potentials and four currents.
The qed lagrangian is L = \psibar(p/ - m)\psi - j.A + (1/4)F^uv F_uv
with j^u = e\psibar\gamma^u\psi [Bilge wrote].
$$ See ..your OWN, item #1 (below), you relativistic Dimwit.

$$ Bilge, in another stunning display of verbal diarrhea.

$$ Bilge doesN'T have any common sense or enough smarts to know
$$ when to cut his losses and stop trying to peddle GR bullshit.

$$ He was never one to let a 'COUNTER-fact' spoil the perfectly
$$ idiotic article he vainly labored over in physical ignorance.

$$ What is flawed is his attitude, ability to reason and even to
$$ understand 'the most basic' physics and fundamental units.

$$ Bilge flounders (even "wallows") in his OWN too-DEEP shit.

$$ GR people like BiLGE are dedicated to playing word games
$$ to promote the GR cracked-pot idea - GR cracked-pots will
$$ always take any explanation and exploit it with semantics
$$ to obfuscate what would have otherwise been clear.

$$ He's a stubborn pea-brain who pops up ..every now and then,
$$ to regurgitate the same BULL he used and had shoved back down
$$ his throat for years.

$$ On a more positive note, reading his posts is probably a
$$ cheap way for anyone who is depressed to realize how much
$$ worse off they could be (with a degree) being THAT stunned.

$$ No suptle way in pointing out just how misguided Bilge is.

$$ Bilge, the mental (unphysical) masturbator, drooled:

|> But you can safely skip a number of sections,
|> in particular the sections on the see-saw mechanism
|> and effective lagrangians.

$$ The SI GUESS LaGrangian = h*fL = m1*nL*c^2 = m1*wl*fL*c.

$$ Re: [BiLGE.wpd] < ***@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net >
$$ -- Kerem Serdar Bilge. [Period: 14oct2005 to 21nov2005].

1. No GR "POTENTiAL-energy". [Bilge]
|> One fundamental difference, however, is that in newtonian
|> mechanics, you have to include interactions by using potential
|> energies whereas in relativity, you must deal directly with
|> the interactions and cannot use potential energies.

5.
|> Actually, no one would ever try to measure the velocity directly.

12.
|> So, yes, other people do check dimensions for [fundamental]
|> consistency, but the point of doing that is [for fundamental]
|> consistency, not because the units are necessarily fundamental.

|> As I previously mentioned, units are important for purposes of
|> turning theoretical physics into measurements we can make with
|> the types of instruments that we can create [..or manufacture].

|> -- "..physics sits between pure mathematics and engineering.."

15.
|> You'll have to excuse me if I would consider your claim under
|> these circumstances to be what is questionable even if I didn't
|> know what it was. My guess is that you would, too, if you had
|> those odds and wanted to place a bet involving a lot of cash.

16.
|> Force is defined from geometrical quantities, so once you give
|> up geometry, you have to use concepts that make sense without
|> geometry. [There's No "FORCE", "mass" or "momentum" in GEOMETRY].

17.
|> Stop stuffing your head up your ass. [Bilge, un-physical dimwit].

19.
|> A pseudorandom number process is like a random process,
|> only different. Do yourself a favor. Invest in a brain.

20.
|> "You're answering a different question that wasn't asked, .."

|> You should try to remember that the crutches used in such
|> derivations are for the benefit of the _reader_, not because
|> any of the crutches are necessary. [--snicker--]

21.
|> Since there is no procedure for constructing a lagrangian,
|> the only means of obtaining one is to use physical intuition
|> to make an intelligent guess. If such a procedure existed,
|> we would have a theory of everything.

|> -- Kerem Serdar Bilge. [There is No GR "POTENTiAL-energy"].

$$ A GENERAL UNiVERSAL EQUATiON of STATE SYSTEM frame-of-reference.
$$ Re: Potential energy and relativity autopsy. [End of POST].
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